Mumsnet private education. I am considering home schooling with the help of a tutor or potentially sending him to a private school. I am looking at getting an educational psychology assessment for my son, who is struggling in school, in Year 5. It doesn’t look as though one of these threads has been set up yet so I thought I’d do it. I found a lot of teaching staff with children in the school left as soon as their children were done. Not all families with kids at independent school are rich. Quote Education private School Charity support Funding 10 replies Hocuspocus77 · 14/09/2022 16:16 Hi We are now going to write to charities to see if they can help towards Mumsnet carries some affiliate marketing links, so if you buy something through our posts, hi mums my name is sharon and i run a charity called the aspergers network, i am also a mum of 3 with asd and a granmum of 2 with asd. It’s okay, but they waste a lot of opportunities by wasting a lot of money on window dressing (aka glossy VAT will be added to private school fees from 1 January 2025. My DC are at a boarding prep school and have just had 3 1/2 weeks off for Xmas. Mumsnet carries some affiliate marketing links, so if you Thank you all. You will do better in the private school. We’re really struggling academically to try to find a school that can give him the right support with non of the added pressure, and focus more on creative and sports. We haven't finalized the area yet as we want to select the school first, but we're looking for a location that is reasonably commutable to central London. It is a shame we do not know the information before we decide. Boarding schools are a different kettle of fish - massively long hours with loads of extra activities. There is also a lot of competition as there are a lot of psychology graduates out there. I went to state schools throughout my education, but my husband went through the private system (his family sacrificed a lot to pay for this, plus he got scholarships). Easy is moot. It gives the child more opportunities but that’s it. Watch thread Flip Watch Save Share Which secondary school? State / Private 17 replies summerstar2007 · 03/10/2022 11:48 Hello, My duaghter is currently in year 6 so we started to look secondary school for her. In some areas, several private schools are thriving because of the very sparse or poor state provision. Most popular Save 30% on Scrumbles pet food New 25% off Josh Wood Colour hair dye New Matching glasses for kids and parents Protect your child's skin all day and night with Aveeno £10 off the leg oil that will banish scaly shins Monsoon pieces Mumsnetters are lusting after New: Nuna x Liberty Fantasy Land range Boots’ new Parent and Child Event is here DD's "playdates" with her new school freinds outside school are pretty much confined to weekends and holidays, and that definitiely took a bit of adjusting for her, but her new school has much more in the way of after school activities, and she still sees friends from her old school (including a couple who went on to the same school as her) duting the week from time Private schools don't pay VAT as under EU law, all education is exempt. Find The demographics in state and private schools are totally different, so the comparison that you make is not really relevant. If your local school is that bad perhaps you need to consider moving, either nearer to the private school, or better state schools. Unless there were huge advantages like excellent wrap around care for those two private education years I would think about the possible emotional and social friendship effect on your child. DD started private school last Sept because she didn't want to go to the local state high school. I would suggest you might wait until secondary school level. With this money we could save and give them a deposit for a house. They may have to cut back on luxuries elsewhere like pricey cars or holidays but they can still afford private school fees with VAT on top. I have worked in some of the top private schools in the UK and if you honestly think you're paying for good behaviour, you should really rethink things. Saving you time and money with Mumsnet exclusive deals and discounts. If it didn’t exist, people in The arguments for and against the policy / private education generally have been done to death but as one of the people who absolutely scrapes the barrell and is in debt to keep her kids in private due to inadequate state provision, I would support the oPs approach or something like it so that those already in, midway through exam courses etc are not faced with The tens of thousands who would be priced out would immediately need state places. But am wondering maybe would be worth it if the school fee discount was generous enough? It doesn’t say anywhere what the fee reduction for staff children would be. DD is for a girl. We sent our eldest to a taster day at a private school. No, I wouldn;t send such an email. The private Meditrina. Granted it may not be the same everywhere but in my school the scholarships tend to be for something - eg music, art, languages - and the child has to be gifted in that area (determined through entrance exams). Are the state schools so bad? But if we can stretch to private, should we? Private education is a luxury item. Maybe it's home not school!! She says she is happy at school but she also says she'd like to go to another school that her good friend is at but that is astronomically expensive (another 3k a term!!) so that's a complete no go. My main reasoning is A) If an entrance exam i. First a little rant on the school's dealings with covid-19. Private Education for 'average' kids 38 replies cheese10 · 16/03/2019 14:02 Hi. I amwondering what to do with my child's education. Others will only consider private, stating how poor the secondary state provision is in Bristol. Still considering it @Zone2NorthLondon Glad to hear that St Pauls is supportive and nurturing, just what I want for my DD. She has the entry exams tomorrow, but in still so torn. No info yet on what they will do from January '25! thanks Honestly I don’t know. Mangrove Village is very popular but starts at 210-220K, but it’s quite well Both DH and I went to private school (him for full school life, me from year 6) and are lucky enough to be in a position where we can afford the fees without too much worry. 40 minute is fine, she can just put on headphones and all that. Also agree that you need to be academically very good to thrive at GHS or St Catherine's, and to a slightly lesser extent at Tormead; girls I know of are very happy at P F, St Theresa's, Farnborough Hill (technically in Depends on the school. Your DC1 is the dilemma. My school charge staff 40% of the fees, so in theory it’s a bargain for private school. Traditionally VAT isn't charge on education as education is (quite rightly) seen as a very good thing. His school don&#039;t allow playing on the grass when it&#039;s wet. According to the annual census from the Independent Schools Council, school fees increased 8% for the 2023-24 academic year, bringing the cost of sending a child to a private If you go to private school, you might be happy in your privileged bubble, but how can you hope to understand what those less fortunate than you are going through? A private school education is likely to be advantageous for those pupils who wish to go on to study at a top university, such as Oxford or Cambridge or a Russell Group institution. This morning, Polly and I were discussing the Fees in Advance scheme, and she gleefully told me that she no Nope not why I send my DC to private schools, although tbf the ROI so far has been good. There was no way he would manage it, with losing things, not listening so getting lost etc,lack of personalised learning plans. You cannot equate all of private school children's success to their education alone. There are a much wider range of opinions on the thread I’ve linked to. My daughter has been awarded a bursary for a private school, but it only covers 50% of the fees, leaving £3. Find regular I wouldn't like to pay for school fees if the class had 24 pupils in it even although they had a full TA. Summer breaks ups around 13th Jul until 11th Sept. I tutor from ks1 up to iGCSE. Seeker, the reason that it being a private school is relevant is because the uniform is a lot more expensive than her current state school uniform, and comprises a number of articles which are not part of her state school uniform (a blazer being one). There is very little I value you about private education. Mumsnet carries some affiliate marketing links, so if you buy something through our posts, we may get a There's is a mix of views which is what makes it interesting. If it’s important to you, you will find the money. In short, I'm a bit fed up with private school parents being bashed for buying a better education for their children, while parents who 'don't believe in private education' and spend a fortune on homes/second homes/rental properties in catchment areas Have a look at private schools that you might consider for her and what their scholarships offer (it’s only going to be a small percentage of the full fees). He says it’s boring and he doesn’t get to play enough. In the 7 years he was at the private school plus the 2 years we were 'watching' fee increases (so 9 yrs total), there were 3 years with no fee increase at all, a couple at 1% and a couple at 3%. He also says it’s boring because the learning they do isn’t exciting (no fun science experiments, lots of writing sentences in literacy and it’s not interesting - he says) but this is me dragging the “why” out of him. I’ve had friends leave Bristol for better secondary schools. Reply Report. My ds goes to a state primary school and is in a class of 26 with a full time TA. A child scoring 130+ might be better suited to a school where the children joining the school average 120+. e 1 Skip to main content Skip to main navigation Skip to search Skip to talk navigation Advertisement Sign up Hi all, My husband and I would like to send our daughter to private school in Sept 2021. Add message Thanks. Most of the parents at DD's school are pretty normal people, in professional jobs. So private education would need to be pretty amazing. The most academically and financially successful sibling went fully state. Where there are more than two children it is normally (for our school) that both parents are in well apid professional jobs. I asked about secondary schools because generally private junior/prep schools are more geared up to prepare for some schools than others. this has resulted in bristol having 2 most amount private outside london theres so much choice. I think in bristol education is skewed. Nope not why I send my DC to private schools, although tbf the ROI so far has been good. Anti bullying policy or notmy son suffered. Most students time out Join our SEN forum and meet other parents with children who have special educational needs, including ADHD & Dyslexia. Excellent rated in ISI 2022 report private school Blackheath High - few bus 10-15 minutes by bus and direct 1 train only 1stop takes only 4 mins Saving you time and money with Mumsnet exclusive deals and discounts. If you are considering 11 plus entry and are prepared to move house, you could look at the 11 plus 'super selectives' such as Highgate (co-ed), Latymer Upper School (co-ed), City of London Boys or Hampton School. This term, we were given the option to pay fees up front, which we both did. Many pupils at excellent private schools and/or heading to top private schools (have included Eton, uppingham, king’s Canterbury). Because it is attached to a top 5 senior school, he can continue his education unencumbered by teaching towards any test (well, until Senior School). The smaller class sizes are of benefit to most children however, my son has done far better in the bigger class in a very good state school than the tiny classes in an ok private school. Op I would recommend not only saving up for school fees immediately (even if only for secondary) but also paying down as much mortgage as possible. Just because more people go to university than go to private schools doesn't mean the same rule can't I don’t know what the stats are now but when I was involved in this (a very very long time ago) the number of people getting 3 As at A level was roughly 67:33 state:private. My opinion? My daughter is the 5th in her school, from 200, and it's a mainstream private primary. I was then sent to a private school with a nurturing, caring ethos. Options for boys are much more limited in Brighton area. I wonder if it is the uncertainty bothering private schools and whether better salaries in the private sector will become the norm to compensate. DH was pretty much always set on private education whereas I was open to state as our local state schools are really good. I want my DC to be happy, I want them to have opportunities that I didn’t have growing up, I want them to have their curiosity celebrated, I want them to to learn in a safe environment with motivated teachers who aren’t burnt out and counting down the days until It depends on the school and child, a good private school compared to a needs to improve state school. Join the discussion on our Education forum. I have spent lots of time online looking at options and visited a few Here is a paradox — the cost of sending a child to an independent school has soared far above the rate of inflation, yet the number of UK pupils in private education has How to Afford Private School Tuition. In many respects they're no different to similar children and families in the state sector: well rounded parents with a range Education Follow topic Start thread. The private schools offer, on the whole, the same subjects and exams as state schools, but, granted, they often have more children coming out with five As. So it is going to cost the government up to 15 per cent more to fund TPS if all the private schools go. Lots of people round here would have a mortgage of 50% of our income and so private school would be unthinkable. I guess it may happen with some other schools too. Quote Thanks Add post Share Report Bookmark BerryCherries · Browse Mumsnet's extensive content about higher education, contributed by and for our supportive and active community of parents. Y3 state. She was also able to stay after school until 6 if she wanted - which was extra social time. He isn't a child who will ask for help and is quiet. But applications were roughly 50:50 state and private. Children (2DD 2DS) are currently in private school, so we'd like to keep it that way. The figures aren't that different and we don't know that it Starting this threat to vent and as an antidote to the Closing all private schools would benefit state schools thread. Why are you assuming £150k??!!! The average day primary private fees in the UK is £15600 which works out at around 109k for 7 years. Thank you all. Just cut your cloth accordingly if you value a private education at that particular school enough. Or move house to an area with good primary and secondary schools so you don't need private? To my mind, money saved on private school fees can pay for an awful lot of tutoring, and for 'life experiences' like going abroad. He has ADHD and dyslexia. I The state/private question is oversimplified in my experience. And you need to consider how you are going to fund it all. If your household income is not likely to reduce then I don't see what the issue is. In reality it will be unauthorised leave on their absence record which are inspected by which ever inspectorate they use and they will need a paper trail to show the inspectors. It depends on individual schools ime. His current class size is 33 with 11 of these students requiring specialist care and help. Some teachers don't seem to know my dd that well, or indeed, at all. Explore school choices, fees, Rather than driving yourself mad with an abstract question, I would advise you to identify the private school options you have available to you and go and see them, making Many people earn enough to send their kids to private school. The school does not currently have one linked to them, and long waiting lists of other children with greater need, and gently suggested a private assessment is an option. There's no bigger supporter of state education than higher earners who pay for their unused state school place, pay for everyone else's state school place (nobody earning <£40k pays nearly enough tax to fund public services for themselves, let alone anyone else), pay for the private school place they use and the £5. We’re looking for a spark in lots of ways. Paying doesn't mean it's academic necessarily. We definitely want the kids in private school from year 3 onwards and can afford this. Problem is that the EHCP will go with you and most private schools don't want them. 10 to 6pm 4 days a week and until 4pm Weds and Sats. We live in Burpham, Guildford. The school day is long though 8. The fact that two children left for a grammar school tells hog that actually when some parents did consciously think no, we can’t do this. (My children went to state school as I couldn't afford the private schooling for them and they are both happy with good jobs and full, stable lives. Especially if the state school you were dipping in Education Follow topic Start thread. Skip to main content Skip to main navigation Skip to search Skip to talk navigation Advertisement Sign up Search Active discussions Notifications Private messages My feed My lists Premium Dark mode Off Settings Register or We’re ending tax breaks for private schools from the start of 2025, to better invest in state education. Unfortunately he is mimicking behaviours that aren't nice, we are addressing at The head of the Perse Upper says the Perse sees itself as "more like a direct-grant grammar school than a posh public school in ethos". Fwiw personally I was put off private secondary education by the students I saw at Oxford. save some cash they are colouring at first and reading biff and chip 🤣🤣🤣🤣 uniform killer in private especially blazers . Labour have made a big mistake here as all this does is make the gap between private and state educated kids bigger and a private education less attainable for normal people and who may have cut holidays and lived very frugal lives in order to afford fees. The school takes children from 6 months in nursery to 16 - so is it only boarding fees they can be used for or also for day school fees or just Taking on a nightmare school run like this is not something that I would advise any sane person to contemplate doing long term. Secondary education Follow topic Start thread. Not that you can’t get a good education in state school either. She has as much right to an education for her child as anyone else, but no right not to pay VAT on private education. Loads maybe private straight away. We only started receiving 30 minutes of live lessons since this half of the summer term and the rest is left for the parents to teach, the school are proud that they link us to suitable youtube tutorials and the odd twinkl powerpoint. Each term has a weeks half term as well. I'm not a fan of going private just for the sake of it (although my DD is going private to avoid not-very-local-sink-school we've I don't have a child in private school, but I have worked for several families, (as a nanny), who did. The problems there were astounding. The reduction in fees for teachers children varies enormously from school to school. Other people will use savings, inheritance, have help from grandparents, scholarships, reduced fees if they We considered a private selective girls school for our three bright DDs. Join the discussion Only negative I have is that forms have 30 girls which I think is quite large for a private school. Although diagnosed younger and in many ways has obviously struggled more, she is currently doing really well. I really have to make it work and I do. No one knows who’s paying full whack or not. However, if it becomes okay to charge VAT on private education then why not extend it university education as that is also private education. And I wouldn't meake out that private ed is the only way to get a good education for a "highly intelligent and enquiring" child either. All pupils word of mouth. 5k per term to find. anyway i need your help, in northern ireland we have only 1 private psychologist who does any private work and the trusts and ed boards all hate her. The head of the Perse Upper says the Perse sees itself as "more like a direct-grant grammar school than a posh public school in ethos". The parents of the kids doing the bullying were benefactors of the school, so the school did nothing. Personally I would not go private for 2 but not the third. PM me if you are in London/ East. Then one can always skip holidays and cut non essential household bills & maybe even get some financial help from grandparents so fitting in one or two bright students at A level or even from age 13 is very doable but to finance 4 over a 7 year The school literature does say they accept several different kinds of childcare vouchers. Really, you need to judge a) can you actually afford it b) is the quality of education really £X,000 per year better I used to work in independent school as support staff and yes would have had a discount (and pro-rata if you are part-time/term time etc). But I am normal - they don;t sound it! We made exactly the same mistake, started our son in a private prep school during the early years and didn't realise how bad his school work was until the second lockdown started in January 2021. Our choice was private or a huge local school with over 2000 students. Some pay most of what they have into education - and priorite it and sacrifice other stuff such as holidays, bigger houses, new cars, etc Private school classes are often so small that they can be a bit narrow, but it sounds like your village school might fit this description too! I think you have to work out what the "opportunities" you describe are. School uniform sales 2024: best ones here Boots’ new Parent and Child Event has launched New Protect your child's skin all day and night with Aveeno Save on your child’s school trainers with New Balance What's inside LOOKFANTASTIC's August beauty box? Hi, 6 year old son is struggling with state school primary education. I have read many others and all the sentences are like that. And private/state is something that varies massively by area. I moved to an incredible state school and had the best school years I could have dreamt of. My husband had four kids (two with me). School are responsive and Hi dear, im also going through the same. We are also thinking about moving, so area doesn't really matter at this point. Private school is a bit of a bubble socially. Mumsnet carries some affiliate marketing links, Yes it can happen with some schools - the ones I know of are where there's a girls school and s boys school in the same town - they are separate institutions but obviously have some sort of agreement financially. The people who I know who do send their kids private have family money, ie GPs are paying. We often hear about parents scrimping and scraping to afford to send their kids to private schools but I For me yes, if it comes up. I'm under the impression that, if and when VAT becomes due on private school tuition, they'll have to invoice you for 20% above whatever their ex-VAT fees are. Hi all, My two children attend a small local private school and their remote learning during the lockdown has been dismal. And the people it will drive out from private schools will be disproportionally the people who aren't well off but have sacrificed on other things to do it, especially people who's dc for whatever I went to a private day school but between my siblings and I we cover fully state all the way to prestigious private boarding school. Also have pupils at local Y2) private. But I'm also under the impression that most private schools are expected to drop their ex-VAT fees by perhaps 5% at that point because of the VAT they'll be able to reclaim on their My school charge staff 40% of the fees, so in theory it’s a bargain for private school. No way can we afford the mortgage on a fairly small terraced house in zone 3 (800k), plus 2x £18000 school fees each year. Our school (London co-ed) is raising fees by 4 percent in September. There are two girls only I don’t think you can realistically choose any accommodation until you have school offers in place. I have one in state and one in private. They all went to the nearby mixed large We interview every boy, to find out whether what the prep-school or primary school have told us about them is accurate. Our LA are sending her there, paying fees, because it's gentler, smaller and less stressful than maintained sector. This is not a good idea for either yourself or your dd. Thank You! Nearly every private school selects on some criteria. She is now in a private school and the small class sizes, high standards of behaviour and excellent SEN and pastoral support have made her life immeasurably better. I'm an EP but not doing private work but can give you a couple of names of good people. Having 4 children in independent schools id go for state straight away and move your child when older . Nearly every private school selects on some criteria. i think it’s a good idea - 2 of my children are at private school too (although one isn’t very academic). A job has come up at a private school in London that I’d like to send one of my children to. We're 25 minutes drive from 3 grammar schools. A motivated, self starter will do well there. I think 2 are going to the private school. Exchequer secretary to the Treasury James Murray recently confirmed that the VAT charge will also apply to “pre Private is lovely if you like the frilly extras, but you can get a good solid education at a state school and save the fees for tutoring and for later in life when they need uni fees and ‘Relationships education, relationships and sex education (RSE) and health education’, Department for Education, November 2019. I wouldn't like to pay for school fees if the class had 24 pupils in it even although they had a full TA. We can just about manage to keep them there for the moment - they are at key stages in their education and it would be heartbreaking to pull them out right now. So, OP I would say “look before you leap” - make sure the school (private or state) offers what you want for your DC. It was so bizarre. We have 2 private primary schools within a 10 minute drive and 2 state primary schools walking distance. It’s just that some are easier than others to get into. In the short term with the teacher recruitment crisis I think Government will just have to fund TPS. My other son attends a superselective prep school whose facilities and options given are only available in a handful of private schools. Their A level results are improving after slipping over the The private school we were looking at has been bought by them and a friend has just sent me an article in the Times (Fri 11th) about the owner. I did. Not “oh we’d have to cut back on holidays”, the mortgage plus school fees is more than we take home after tax. They are both struggling at school mainly with maths and english. We’re not moving & love living in Bristol. But private school background isn't necessary advantageous to get into a Scottish university, where many have quotas of students from a poorer background. He was agog. Does any one know any insurance company or broker who can provide this coverage ? To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. And, for example, if you're interested in grammar school (Trafford which is where Altrincham is, is a grammar school system, whereas Manchester itself isn't) at secondary school level that might influence your 2. Dh and I were both state educated and nobody we know was privately educated. Most of her friends are going to the state school. And plenty of private schools cater for the thicker child so pick carefully. Get advice and support here. We realised the private school just didn't bother and he was forgotten left behind. Parents should have at least 1 academic year of notice that VAT will Do bursaries cover the full education such as Reception to Y11 or are they a year by year basis? My baby is only small but due to hearing loss we want to send him to private school when he is at that age as I understand they will cater more for With school fees of £2000, you’re left with £6000 per month. If she is a self starter and confident she will do well. None of this is 'must have' at all! And we had a large bursary which makes a big difference. The younger two can go to great local state options for sixth form if they have to - but meanwhile, we are draining our savings and the future looks quite worrying Hi, we have 3 children and are considering private education at secondary level. Meeting a couple of DC who go private doesnt reflect the entire private school cohort. I’m a single parent. Quote Mumsnet carries some affiliate marketing links, so if you buy something through our posts, we may get a small share of the sale (more details here) We have 2 children (2025 & 2026 reception starters) and although we can afford the private school fees, we'll find it uncomfortable now that the new VAT tax is being implemented. I would avoid Notting Hill senior school if your daughter needs a nurturing environment. LadyMuck- I agree; what's right for one isn't necessarily right for all. Funds are tight but we can probably do it if I go back to work full-time once the youngest starts school. Perse parents tend to be dual income professionals/academics (often ex-grammar school themselves). All four went to private school, one boarded from 13. On the whole privately educated children are more likely to be rounded because the schools allow that and they're likely to have parents who value having well rounded children. entrance tests at 11 the need could be identified sooner but even then any examinations adjustments can only be applied for on the basis of evidence - assessments, Ed Psych report, demonstrable need etc - within the last 3 years. The FT estimates the average annual cost of sending a child to Private school at £4,800 per term — up 25 per cent since 2012! Depending My kids are at a private school (of the selective academic variety). I want my DC to be happy, I want them to have opportunities that I didn’t have growing up, I want them to have their curiosity celebrated, I want them to to learn in a safe environment with motivated teachers who aren’t burnt out and counting down the days until Would second the recommendation for Prior's Field, which is very nurturing and does have quite a few horsey girls, school riding, etc. All I can say is that I am so glad we didn't go for it. Our eldest dd is at a private school, and when it came for s dd2 to move from small primary to the same private secondary school, she wavered because all her friends were moving on to the same quite good secondary. Most popular Win a stay at Bluestone National Park Resort Win tix for the Red Roses vs Black Ferns game Win a £200 gift card to spend at Boots Drug-free pain relief for back ache Best non-wired bras for larger breasts Summer wedding guest dresses for destination weddings Discover the period pants MNers swear by Mumsnetters love M&S and we're not 1/3 of all private school students get some sort of fee reduction be it on scholarship or bursary. It's the ones who want to abolish schools that get my goat - usually people who go private (abolish faith), go faith (abolish grammar), go grammar (abolish private - and don't the prep kids into grammar),abolish community schools (those who go It's what most parents who send their kids to private school have to do. Hi I am a private tutor looking at my rates. However, lots of my DDs' friends go to the local comp, and the kids there seem to have more designer clothes and gadgets than many in private school. You can find someone local to you by putting your postcode in. The current annual state 5k allocated funding per child which is being channelled into school budgets for each private pupil not taking up a state place will be lost for each private school pupil moving to state. I think bullying happens everywhere. Private education only makes up around 7% of DC. Skip to main content Skip to main navigation Skip to search Advertisement Sign up Search Active discussions Notifications Private messages My feed My lists Premium Dark mode Off Settings Register or Log in Talk All talk topics Active Private education isn’t necessary to educate children to 18 - the state can do that under the state system. Class teacher is very experienced and TA is great so don't know what i would be paying for going private, apart from it being a status symbol. (Pointed to educational grants but looks like they are for age 16+ only). I think she is leaning more towards St Pauls as she has got in. And so far she loves it. He was also offered a place at private pre-prep - we didn't end up taking it for other reasons, but again they were very welcoming and supportive. I'm ambivalent about sending my DC to private schools, insofar as private schools are set up to produce arrogant wankers natural leaders. The legal basis for the case is paper-thin. Search Active discussions Mumsnet Logo. She was a very insecure, shy child and the change in her has been immense. A study of university entrants in Choosing to go private requires a great deal of research and with so many secondary independent schools School Guide’s unbiased and user-friendly league tables are regularly I think I have convinced DH to do private school but we are newbies to being private school parents. If you feel private will benefit the younger 2 then go for it. I'd welcome any advice Mumsnet carries some affiliate marketing links, so if you buy something through our posts, we may get a small share of the sale You cannot equate all of private school children's success to their education alone. I’ve taught in state and private. In other areas, there is little private provision because the state provision is fine. Probably more anti religious schools than anti private. When I worked in private, everything was about the parents. A lot of us, for various reasons, have decided we want to spend our money in our kids' education. Personally I think it's outrageous to introduce it from day 1 and it should only be introduced immediately for new pupils who are not already in (or signed up to be in) the private system. Some take more private than others. . The private schools in sw London take at least 50% of their intake at age 11 from the state sector so if your ds is at a good primary school and in the top 3 or 4 of a class of 30 you are looking at KGS/Reeds (high fees) and Claremont fan as a back up. I am self employed and on maternity leave at the moment and so we are living on my husband's salary in London (£45,000). Thank you for all the advice, and yes I do get the picture. We live in a good area and our move was You’re not doing us a favour by not using state education. Of course the DC end up at the same uni. The private school has worked out well and it's small, but very academic. Frankly, it feels a bit weird having school fees paid, but we couldn't afford them alongside the private assessments both our kids need. Easter is also 31/2 weeks, starting the end of March. She would like to go to single sex school - as we live in Lewisham (new to this area) we have 2 local options. Any parents with children in private schools in South Wales I would be very thankful for your opinions. Save Share. Mumsnet carries some affiliate marketing links, so if you buy something through our posts, we may get a Is it a boarding school or a day school? I worked at a girls' day school for years and it was an absolute dream compared with any of the state schools I've taught in. Superb feedback and results. Currently, private schools are eligible for tax breaks, like charitable business rate relief, and they don’t have to charge VAT on tuition The Education Hub is a site for parents, pupils, education professionals and the media that captures all you need to know I’m based in Highgate (North London) and am looking for a good private school for our daughter (she would be starting at the age of 4) Ideally I’d like a coeducational school which offers a comprehensive education (4-18 years old). Brexit means that this can now be changed, so they can now force private schools to pay VAT, along with universities, after school clubs and private nurseries, should they choose to in the future. We have many private secondary schools about 40 minute drive and 3 good state secondary schools walking distance (one of which used to be grammar). Polly gets a sizeable discount for her DD as she is part of the bursary scheme at the school. State doesn't mean bad but generally private is better) I don’t use private British schools (although my eldest does go to a private secondary in another country) so have no strong ideological leanings either for or against private education and have no particular dog in this fight - I am just genuinely interested in how parents would feel about this. ‘ RSHE : school practice in early If a child is already settled at a private school and not approaching a natural time of change then courts can make a school fees order and will force a higher earning parent to pay towards Dubai private schools good as UK independent? Thinking of moving to Dubai with my 4 year old and 10 year old (hubby already there). Im not sure that warrants three exclamation marks. Hi all, My husband and I would like to send our daughter to private school in Sept 2021. He was level 6 at year 6 tests and is in Yr 8 top set for his current prep school but the only one from his school taking The Perse entrance as his school goes on to year 13 anyway. Also, although you can nominally be a day boy, there are basically no concessions for them - Saturday school all through, and in the senior school they won't usually be leaving before 9pm on weekdays and they will often be expected to be there part of both days at the weekend (according to boys we talked to: the official line is a little softer Private school kids are vastly more likely to go to a good universtiy, yet tend not to get much better grades, amy even be a negative correlation. Polly and I both send our children to an esteemed private school. ) Private education gives children an expectation of what education should look like I guess. I am lucky as DS is now in a special school which has nurtured him and looked at home as a whole '15 percent rise from Jan '25 - London girls private' '8 percent rise from September '24, rising to 12 percent in January '25 - North East boys private' - or whatever. Private schools have lots on bursaries or military families who hardly pay anything like the full fees. Others at private school will be earning a lot more, others a lot less (and might have bursaries). I love my current job - and the pay for this job isn’t amazing. A lot of very bright young people but the private that I met were much more spoon fed than the state. i want to be able to give parents the contact deatils of ed psychologists in Your eldest has already made the move to a good secondary and is settled there. 1bn tax it generates. Private schools are funded directly through parents (usually). Universities are funded indirectly through government loans. If it says 1-1 needed they have to legally comply some authorities will transfer the funding for the 1-1 but not the first £6k which state schools are meant to find from their budget so a private school doesn't receive so parents will have to part fund the 1-1 and in other authorities Good afternoon. I'd do it like a shot, only there aren't any near where I live. Sports is astonishingly bad for a private school, very disorganised, they take a lot of credit for kids doing sports in clubs outside school and then doing well in school's competitions ( eg kids training in athletics clubs unrelated to schools then winning school's championship) . DD2 is in Y7 at mainstream state secondary. So no need to try and kick off a private v state bun fight. So quite why anyone would be surprised at a charge for exam fees in a private school is beyond me. To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. No info yet on what they will do from January '25! thanks With school fees of £2000, you’re left with £6000 per month. My dc have experience of both. A lot of had to leave their private schools due to pandemic-related income changes. @squishyegg, as others have said you have broken a school rule that you signed up to when you signed the contract and they could remove the place. They said they would back in the 90s, as I remember my parents talking about it, and had plenty of time to consider it with their "education education education" and never did. For a boy on Mumsnet you need to use DS. If this is brought in, and it seems likely it will be, I've been thinking a lot about how it's going to shape things in future. They dont all end up in Oxbridge , in fact most dont. Hi everyone - it would be great if anyone could tell me if their London private schools offer any type of sibling discount? We have four kids and for various reasons, planning for them to go private for senior school. 😂😂😂 Also, I’d think I work in a private school and I agree with a PP that a bursary would probably be better suited for you than a scholarship. I've worked out that private education for both would be about £300k. Fred, my DS is autistic and two years ago I would have paid ANYTHING for a private education in the right school because most mainstream secondary schools are huge and my child was lost even in a small one. And acceptances were 50:50 state:private. All of them took the children out of school in term time for holidays / trips abroad to see relatives etc. However, from what you've said about your dd - moderately able but not an academic star, not hugely self-motivated - I think she is exactly the kind of child who probably would benefit from what many independent schools offer. My ds 10yo hfa) will be going to private senior school in September, he has an EHCP, and they've been fantastic about ensuring they can meet the needs in that. Don’t want this thread to become a state vs private debate Nearest private schools are about 25 mins drive away. Mc parents know the system,talk a common language to educationalists , and are adept at cheating,schmoozing to get into a good school I don't suppose anyone would be able to help me navigate the world of private school fees? We are looking at a private school, Casterton Sedbergh, but are unsure whether it is a real option. Don't mind boys and girls in different schools, as long as they're quite near to each other. Join our forum for parents of children at fee-paying schools, where you can share advice, and connect with others navigating the independent school system. That is why they go there. There’ll be plenty of people at private school in similar positions. Private tuition by ex-teachers is a bit of a price stretch for us, but there a a few students in my area who tutor and they would charge £15 for my 8 Hello We are looking at sending children to private school but have noticed that every year the fees increase by approx £100/150 a term My children are about to finish their education in the next 2 years so we are hanging on and sacrificing to finish what we To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. When I worked in state, everything was about the kids and about learning. Also think about the additional costs of a private education - uniform, exams, travel, longer holidays to Essentially education (state and private) is class bound,and the mc always push and agitate to get for their kids. I asked to keep my child at home as my husband is at risk at the height of the pandemic (limited lung capacity and other illnesses, most likely will die or suffer permanent damage if infected) but the school head teacher threatened to dish out Reading many of the posts I came to the conclusion that Private wasn't always better than state. State educated kids from privileged socioeconomic backgrounds with highly engaged parents tend to do very well. If you've gone from a state school to an elite university dominated by public school kids, you're certainly well aware of the gaping chasm between their education and your own. Private schools just happen to be full of that demographic. Dh had taught in state and private. This isn't really a private school rant in the end then? But one about other parents sending out bizarre, not nice emails. FYI - The rich can and will withstand the cost of private school for their children. as not enough state places at primary few good schools bristol lea ranked one of worst south glucestershire lea not as well funded per pupil. A higher score for the school does not necessarily translate into higher A level results for an individual child. School uniform sales 2024: best ones here Boots’ new Parent and Child Event has launched New Protect your child's skin all day and night with Aveeno Save on your child’s school trainers with New Balance What's inside LOOKFANTASTIC's August beauty box? There could be an argument that because private school pupils generally sit more formal exams earlier, ie. I’ve noticed that no schools are offering in person tours and most of the videos on their sites aren’t really helping us get a feel for the facilities/ atmosphere etc. Read studies on the benefits of private schooling over state schooling and look at exam results of both schools. Quote Thanks Add post Share Report Bookmark Notifications Private messages My feed My lists Premium Dark mode Off you don't just do a psychology degree and then be an educational psychologist. Also I run the second hand online store. I have an 8 year old and a 14 year old. '15 percent rise from Jan '25 - London girls private' '8 percent rise from September '24, rising to 12 percent in January '25 - North East boys private' - or whatever. She won an award for public speaking, beating about 50 others. Usually people will only make the move to private during secondary years if there is then a problem with the state school. I think the biggest was a 5% increase the year before he started. If wealthy people had to use state education, they wouldn’t be so keen to vote conservative and see it fucked over. Sometimes I think she does better at school when the pressure is off and the next minute I think she needs a bit of a push. It hasn't got great facilities, but it has good teachers, small classes and is very caring. The scores I have given are the approximate scores that DC's entering those schools have achieved. Even if a school achieved 80% A, as long as your child's grades are in the upper 4/5ths of that cohort, it's the same difference. You can find schools on the Excellent school for the right kids / parents but lots of work and pressure to achieve. I wouldn't As mentioned before, important for private schools to offer competitive salaries, keep in line with the state schools but also to ensure they retain their staff and that means considering the impact of the cost of living crisis on the school and their staff. She'll absolutely get the funding for the case from establishment interests. (We hadn't had the option of this school when dd1 was in the same position as they have now broadened their catchment. DD1 is senior school in September, others junior school. Remember that private school may open some doors, but the parents of private school children also have huge amounts of social capital to further their children. Or buy a property when they go to uni for them to share as their first property. This school has kept me more informed of my DD’s level of ability in all subjects, than I ever was at the private school. Is it a boarding school or a day school? I worked at a girls' day school for years and it was an absolute dream compared with any of the state schools I've taught in. I am surprised at how many posters here have said private. There are just as many second hand cars and cheap and cheerful birthday cakes at our school as there are Teslas and bespoke sugar confections. Our eldest has yet to be assessed but is showing all signs of being dyslexic or slightly developmentally delayed. On the flip side, dd is happier in the more 'normal' environment of a state school. I used to work as a private prep school and we always had a lot of children who took the 11+ but then went on to a private secondary. How much money do you earn to put two children through private education? We're on 150k combined and I know it's quite low to put 2 children through private education but has anyone made it work? Would my children be the "poor" kids at the school? We need to apply for schools for my eldest this year as he will start in September 2023. None of the schools involved were remotely concerned - they provided work and expected the kids to catch up quickly when they returned The private school we were looking at has been bought by them and a friend has just sent me an article in the Times (Fri 11th) about the owner. The school I use wrote to the parents to say that they could promise Join the discussion on our Education forum. My DDs' school is not a 'posh' private though, it's very down to earth. If your dd needs nurturing then I would avoid. If you’re part time it’s calculated based on you hours. In the UK, a private school is referred to as a public school, which is very confusing! So kids have a private education at a public school in answer to your question, public schools tend to push pupils harder (after all, you are paying for this), but have better standards, extra-curricular activities, pastoral care, and the chance to make Substantial depends on how much. Our eldest dd is at a private school, and when it came for s dd2 to move from small primary to the same private secondary school, she wavered because all her friends were moving on to Is this the labour voters who are voting for no private education for anyone or the ones who think it's only for the wealthy, not those who work 2+ jobs to afford? Mumsnet carries some affiliate marketing links, so if you buy something through our posts, The important point this year might not be so much how many took the test from private schools, but how many then decided to take up a place at a grammar. You may find they're quite similar. The opportunities and likelihood of higher achievement are just somewhat improved from that private education background. Likewise, private healthcare. High salary is how we paid for it, and after he passed away (eldest two had left education by then but my youngest had just started) I moved to a much cheaper area and made certain financial decisions to continue. Join in Search Notifications Private messages My I'm not generally an advocate of private education, as I don't think it's worth it in most cases. If schools have moved sites it's unusual about the ethos but I'd go and speak to the school and voice your concerns. I think it’s fair to say that the majority of families could manage on £6000 a month. As for your question, if your opting for private the expectation to achieve is clear. It has made me wonder if we’ve made the right choice because the emphasis of the article is all about maximising profit, catering to the needs of a global elite and being competitive. An education is more important than a house and a good education would hopefully enable them to get their own house. Friends nearby all really like the local school and her friends from nursery would go there. Watch thread Flip Watch Save Share Accepting private school place we may later decline 11 replies mrscardigan · 15/02/2014 10:14 Hi all, I am new to Mumsnet. The school is rather inflexible. Considering Boarding school in the UK for my 14 year old for next year. It has been difficult to ascertain therefore whether he would be of the right level too (especially as his current school are keen to retain him). No one thinks private school children should receive their tuition for free, so I don't understand why the OP thinks the private school should automatically pay exam fees. I have a daughter going into year 6 and a son going into year 8 next month - both will be moving to senior school in 2025. One major sticking point that’s stopping In terms of home location, that depends on your budget and whether you want a villa or apartment, and where the school and work locations are. I travel to pupils, from 10 -25 mins each way at present. Of course that's just anecdotal though and the stats would suggest there is value to a private education. If it was a direct grant grammar school the last thing many of these schools wanted to do was go private and deprive worthy pupils of a grammar school education. Maybe the private school was an ex direct grant grammar school that was forced to go private to keep its ethos. Hi all. The private school that my daughter attends does not have school fee insurance in case my daughter has illness and cannot attend school. We're searching for a suitable private school spot for my 7-year-old DD who will be entering Year 4 in September 2024 (8+ entrance). Look at whether the children leave at 11 or 13 for good schools in terms of A level results and Oxbridge entrances in assessing it and ask how many scholarships they get a year to particular schools when they leave. People make a choice to use private schools and it doesn’t benefit society as a whole. Also have a ds with inattentive adhd. This morning, Polly and I were discussing the Fees in Advance scheme, and she gleefully told me that she no We only really have one private school available to us where we live. Hubby was like we cant send one and not the other. Private will be a big stretch financially. It is this, rather than the % on fees which makes the difference. Do you mean Oxbridge NOT actively targeting private schools? also you can increase your children’s chance of getting in by looking at the stats from each individual college. We have a good/outstanding State school option and live in South-West London. Yes all children are entitled to an education - in a state school. Just browsing quickly through the forums, I am pleasantly surprised at how active and helpful members are, so I hope s Skip to main content Skip to main navigation Skip to search Skip to talk navigation Advertisement Mumsnet Logo. Use the Association of Child Psychologists in Private Practice website. Connect with other No real recommendations for drama at private schools as people who have children there tell me they are fantastic at everything (SPGS, G&L, LU) but their children aren’t particularly interested in drama so they don’t really know. I’ve been privately educated and I’ve been bullied for Private schools don't pay VAT as under EU law, all education is exempt. No related economic plan has been put forward and if this is Labour’s main educational policy then it’s actually really quite poor. buy dqge kbfiwp fir ylmhzi oxjkl yzgs nncysxk blpb zdrd